{"id":1304,"date":"2025-03-26T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-03-26T07:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/carnegie25live.wpenginepowered.com\/?p=1304"},"modified":"2025-12-16T10:52:57","modified_gmt":"2025-12-16T18:52:57","slug":"engaging-families-empowering-students-a-conversation-with-learning-heroes-ceo-bibb-hubbard","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.carnegiefoundation.org\/engaging-families-empowering-students-a-conversation-with-learning-heroes-ceo-bibb-hubbard\/","title":{"rendered":"Engaging Families, Empowering Students: A Conversation with Learning Heroes CEO Bibb Hubbard"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"gb-container gb-container-9f092ff3\">\n<div class=\"gb-container gb-container-f749780f\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"960\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.carnegiefoundation.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/image-7-960x1024.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1306\" style=\"width:480px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.carnegiefoundation.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/image-7-960x1024.png 960w, https:\/\/www.carnegiefoundation.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/image-7-281x300.png 281w, https:\/\/www.carnegiefoundation.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/image-7-768x819.png 768w, https:\/\/www.carnegiefoundation.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/image-7-1440x1536.png 1440w, https:\/\/www.carnegiefoundation.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/image-7-1920x2048.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-fsb-flexible-spacer fsb-flexible-spacer\"><div class=\"fsb-flexible-spacer__device fsb-flexible-spacer__device--lg\" style=\"height:80px\"><\/div><div class=\"fsb-flexible-spacer__device fsb-flexible-spacer__device--md\" style=\"height:80px\"><\/div><div class=\"fsb-flexible-spacer__device fsb-flexible-spacer__device--sm\" style=\"height:80px\"><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Dive into this conversation with Bibb Hubbard, founder and CEO of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/bealearninghero.org\/\">Learning Heroes<\/a>, as she explores the critical role of family-school partnerships in fostering student success. Bibb, who has spent her career at the intersection of education policy, advocacy, and parent engagement, launched Learning Heroes to support and equip parents in advocating most effectively on behalf of their children\u2019s learning and wellbeing. To meet parents where they are with actionable information and resources, Learning Heroes has conducted an unprecedented amount of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/bealearninghero.org\/research\/\">parent mindset research<\/a>. Bibb also serves on the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.carnegiefoundation.org\/our-work\/high-school-transformation\/carnegie-rd-agenda\/\">Carnegie Expert Workgroup<\/a>&nbsp;to guide the co-creation of our research and development agenda to transform U.S. high school education.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this Q&amp;A, Hubbard shares key findings on family perceptions and academic achievement, how communities can work together to support student growth, and the critical moment for family engagement in high school. She also discusses what\u2019s next for research at Learning Heroes and the policy shifts needed to ensure every parent has the knowledge and resources to help their child thrive.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"what-inspired-your-focus-on-parent-advocacy-and-research-and-what-pivotal-experiences-led-you-to-launch-learning-heroes\"><strong>What inspired your focus on parent advocacy and research, and what pivotal experiences led you to launch Learning Heroes?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>I come to this work through the lens of policy, politics, communications, and advocacy. I started my career in national politics, working on Democratic presidential campaigns, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the Senate, the White House, and the Department of Labor, but three key experiences led me to Learning Heroes. First, as a public school graduate and mom of two, I\u2019ve experienced firsthand the power communities play in supporting student success. Second, my time at Scholastic reinforced the importance of integrating families into every decision. Third, while working at the Gates Foundation, I kept asking, \u201cWhat is our plan for engaging families in our strategy?\u201d which led me to focus on this work with philanthropic support.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Early on at Learning Heroes, our research found that almost<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gallup.com\/analytics\/513881\/parents-perspectives-on-grades.aspx#:~:text=Nine%20in%2010%20parents%20believe,receive%20mostly%20B's%20or%20better.\">&nbsp;nine in ten parents think their child is at or above grade level<\/a>. Meanwhile, only 30% of 8th graders nationally demonstrate proficiency or above in math and reading. While this illustrates how much there still is to do, based on our work and research, when families are seen, heard and invited in, the results for kids, schools and communities will follow.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"what-inspired-your-focus-on-parent-advocacy-and-research-and-what-pivotal-experiences-led-you-to-launch-learning-heroes\"><strong>What are you most excited about over the next 12 to 24 months at Learning Heroes?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>We\u2019ve been at this work for nearly a decade. What excites me most now is the clarity we\u2019ve gained: we can\u2019t just support families in isolation to move the needle. We must consider what\u2019s happening inside school buildings, and if there ever was a need for meaningful communications with families, it is now.&nbsp; We focus on three key areas:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Building educator capacity<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2013 Many teachers consistently report not feeling equipped or trained to engage with families effectively, so we support schools in making this a core part of student success.&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Championing parents<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2013 Caregivers rely on communications with their child\u2019s teacher and report cards to gauge progress. We strengthen families\u2019 ability to most effectively navigate and advocate for their child\u2019s success through parent awareness and action campaigns, like&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/gobeyondgrades.org\/\">GoBeyondGrades<\/a>, and research-based, parent-friendly resources like the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/bealearninghero.org\/readiness-check-2022\/\">Readiness Check<\/a>, the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/bealearninghero.org\/parent-teacher-planning-tool-2023\/\">Parent Teacher Planning Tool<\/a>, and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/bealearninghero.org\/paths-to-success\/\">Paths to Success<\/a>, among other helpful supports.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Enhancing research and policy<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2013 We contribute to the national conversation by enhancing the evidence base around the role of families and educators in student success and by lifting up parents\u2019 voices and needs.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"what-inspired-your-focus-on-parent-advocacy-and-research-and-what-pivotal-experiences-led-you-to-launch-learning-heroes\"><strong>Why is meaningful family and educator engagement particularly important now?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>If COVID taught us anything, it\u2019s that people need human connection. Students need to be in school with caring adults who create a sense of belonging, and families need that sense of community, too.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Given today\u2019s societal polarization and silos, this work is more urgent than ever. When relationships between schools and families are strong, tough conversations become possible. Parents trust that schools have their child\u2019s best interests at heart, and schools trust that parents are doing their best, too. With this approach, we believe schools can experience a range of improved outcomes\u2014reduced chronic absenteeism, higher tutoring uptake, increased achievement rates, increased educator retention, stabilized enrollment, etc.&nbsp;This is why I find Carnegie\u2019s high school transformation project so exciting\u2014rethinking what happens inside school buildings and reconsidering who supports student learning is essential. Families are often left out of the equation, which makes no sense because there is a critical role for them to play at the high school level. This is why we are working in multiple states to promote data transparency, train teachers to engage families in conversations about student progress, and equip principals with the mindsets and tools to foster engagement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"what-inspired-your-focus-on-parent-advocacy-and-research-and-what-pivotal-experiences-led-you-to-launch-learning-heroes\"><strong>Could you share an example from the past few years that makes you optimistic about the future of family engagement?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.carnegiefoundation.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/LH-Logo-1024x845-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-23673\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-fsb-flexible-spacer fsb-flexible-spacer\"><div class=\"fsb-flexible-spacer__device fsb-flexible-spacer__device--lg\" style=\"height:32px\"><\/div><div class=\"fsb-flexible-spacer__device fsb-flexible-spacer__device--md\" style=\"height:32px\"><\/div><div class=\"fsb-flexible-spacer__device fsb-flexible-spacer__device--sm\" style=\"height:32px\"><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>At Learning Heroes, our Family Engagement Leadership Institute helps principals develop family engagement plans directly connected to their school goals. Demand is growing\u2013we started with 25 schools three years ago, and now we\u2019re working with 75 schools. One standout is Barb Lange, principal of rural Storm Lake Elementary in Iowa. After participating in the program, she implemented home visits, targeted teacher PD to address chronic absenteeism, and shifted the focus of open houses from the traditional teacher-led model to listening and building meaningful trust with families. As a result, the school reduced its chronic absenteeism rate from 30% in 2022-2023 to 15% the following year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another example is Andrew Granias at the New City Charter School in Minneapolis. He has transformed their approach to family engagement by focusing on math proficiency. He worked with a few teachers to build their confidence for these sometimes difficult conversations with families. Early indications show that student math performance is rising in classrooms where teachers have been trained, and Granias is now expanding this work to a whole-school strategy by leveraging the leadership of the first cohort of teachers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"what-inspired-your-focus-on-parent-advocacy-and-research-and-what-pivotal-experiences-led-you-to-launch-learning-heroes\"><strong>Have you heard consistent themes from families about the aspirations for their children\u2019s high school experiences, whether they\u2019re in Minneapolis or a rural town in Iowa?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Across the board, parents\u2014especially at the high school level\u2014want their children to graduate prepared for life. They want them to develop real-world skills that allow them to navigate life independently and thrive. Of course, they also want them to have strong foundational skills in reading and math too. And this is where things get tricky.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gallup.com\/analytics\/513881\/parents-perspectives-on-grades.aspx\">Our research shows that 91% of high school parents believe their children are reading and doing math at or above grade level<\/a>. That assumption makes sense\u2014after all, if their kids have made it to high school, they should have those skills. Unfortunately, that\u2019s not always the case, and the gap becomes even more urgent at this stage, as there\u2019s less time to address it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At the end of the day, parents prioritize foundational academic skills, but they also expect schools to reinforce and support their children\u2019s development in communication, organization, teamwork, and empathy throughout the curriculum. Of course, school safety remains a top priority for families everywhere.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"what-inspired-your-focus-on-parent-advocacy-and-research-and-what-pivotal-experiences-led-you-to-launch-learning-heroes\"><strong>Why are real-world skills important to families in addition to academic content knowledge? Do parents\u2019 expectations shift as their kids enter high school and prepare to launch into the world post-graduation?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>While the education field tends to silo academic knowledge, skills, and social-emotional learning, parents see all of these things as connected. Parents know that their child needs to be in a good place socially and emotionally to be successful academically. Their well-being is the foundation, and everything else builds from there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This becomes especially clear in high school. As kids grow, they seek more independence, and parents navigate that shift. By high school, parents want to ensure their child is prepared to navigate the world on their own, but they don\u2019t separate that from academics. They expect their child to develop real-world skills\u2014like communication, teamwork, and problem-solving\u2014through subjects like civics, science, math, and English, as well as extracurriculars like drama or sports. Families want skills to be integrated rather than treated as separate from academics. Their focus isn\u2019t on whether their child is learning durable skills in isolation but whether they\u2019re gaining the full set of knowledge, competencies, and experiences that will help them succeed. Through the high school transformation process, I hope we can encourage breaking down silos. Too often, I hear people discussing durable skills as if they exist apart from academic learning. The reality is that families don\u2019t separate these things in their thinking, and I don\u2019t think we, as a field, should either.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"what-inspired-your-focus-on-parent-advocacy-and-research-and-what-pivotal-experiences-led-you-to-launch-learning-heroes\"><strong>How have you seen parents and families recognize the value of out-of-school learning in your research?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Thanks to the Wallace Foundation and Karen Pittman, we did&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/bealearninghero.org\/ost-research\/\">a study on out-of-school learning a few years ago<\/a>, and the findings were really interesting. Parents highly value these opportunities for their children and see them as critically important. The families who aren\u2019t engaged often face barriers like financial constraints, lack of transportation, or simply living in rural areas where such opportunities aren\u2019t available. Parents and teachers alike see the benefits of out-of-school learning. Our qualitative and quantitative research showed that students involved in extracurricular activities tend to be stronger students overall.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are two main reasons for this. First, students engage in out-of-school activities by choice, which means they take ownership of their learning. Unlike in school, where they follow a set curriculum, these activities let them explore their passions, take risks, and build relationships with peers who share their interests. A sense of belonging and purpose is powerful and not something students necessarily get in class. Second, students involved in these activities develop skills that translate into academic success. They learn time management, discipline, and resilience\u2014skills that help them juggle responsibilities inside and outside the classroom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"what-inspired-your-focus-on-parent-advocacy-and-research-and-what-pivotal-experiences-led-you-to-launch-learning-heroes\"><strong>Given your policy background, what policy levers do you think could really move the needle on meaningful family engagement?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>There are a few policy levers we are contributing to and pushing the field on, including:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Teacher preparation<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2013 Schools of education should incorporate a dedicated curriculum on family engagement, exploring how educators can connect with families in culturally affirming ways. One of our longtime partners, NASFCE, is starting to build a pedagogy around this, which is exciting, and I see it as a major lever along with accreditation\u2014imagine if for a school of education to get accredited, they had to have a solid family engagement component in their training.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Curriculum integration<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2013 When curriculum providers develop teacher guides and student guides, they could also create parent guides or materials for out-of-school-time providers. The challenge is that unless district leaders demand these changes, vendors likely won\u2019t integrate family engagement as a core component.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Yet here\u2019s another layer to the challenge\u2014many district leaders see parents as a threat, especially in today\u2019s polarized climate. That\u2019s heartbreaking because it doesn\u2019t align with what parents want. When we ask parents what they would do if their child\u2019s school received a D or an F, most say they would talk to the principal and see how they can help the school improve. About 30% say they would look for another school. While many district leaders and principals have different perceptions, shaped by media narratives, I\u2019ve been encouraged by bold leaders who are bringing families into their school\u2019s goal setting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"what-inspired-your-focus-on-parent-advocacy-and-research-and-what-pivotal-experiences-led-you-to-launch-learning-heroes\"><strong>&nbsp;Are there other myths to challenge about the perception of parental and familial involvement in education?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>One persistent myth is the notion that low-income parents don\u2019t care about their children\u2019s education just because they don\u2019t attend parent-teacher conferences. These meetings are often scheduled at inconvenient times, are only 15 minutes long, tend to run late, and if a translator is needed, families could be waiting an extra two hours. If a child is getting a B, why would a parent miss work or skip a basketball game for a low-value interaction that tells them everything is fine? The assumption that low-income parents do not care about their children\u2019s education is not only false but also damaging.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another related myth is about post-secondary aspirations. While interest in college has declined recently, Black and Hispanic families are the most bullish on their children pursuing a two- or four-year degree\u2014more so than white families. This often surprises people, but it shouldn\u2019t because education has long been seen as a pathway to economic and social mobility, particularly for historically marginalized communities.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Finally, there\u2019s the misconception about academic proficiency. As I shared earlier, nine out of ten parents believe their child is at or above grade level, but in reality, only about half of students are. This perception cuts across race, income, and education levels. Parents assume that good grades mean their child is on track, which is understandable when 80% of them report their child brings home mostly B\u2019s or higher. Breaking down these misperceptions requires intentional relationship-building.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"what-inspired-your-focus-on-parent-advocacy-and-research-and-what-pivotal-experiences-led-you-to-launch-learning-heroes\"><strong>Are there other pressing family engagement questions or data points needed by the education field that Learning Heroes is looking to explore next?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>We are in Phase 2 of an impact study with TNTP, examining the relationship between strong family engagement and a range of student and school outcomes, including chronic absenteeism, test participation, teacher retention, principal retention, enrollment stability, and tutoring participation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In Phase 1, we looked at Illinois\u2019 statewide data,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/bealearninghero.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/FACE_ImpactFlyer.pdf\">finding that schools with strong family engagement pre-pandemic experienced significantly lower rates<\/a>&nbsp;of chronic absenteeism, better attendance, increased test-taking rates, and even slightly improved achievement rates in math and reading post-pandemic compared to schools with weak family engagement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Now, we are diving deeper into what drives success, gathering insights from students, teachers, families, guidance counselors, and principals to strengthen engagement as a key strategy for important school and community outcomes.<\/p>\n\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-fsb-flexible-spacer fsb-flexible-spacer\"><div class=\"fsb-flexible-spacer__device fsb-flexible-spacer__device--lg\" style=\"height:80px\"><\/div><div class=\"fsb-flexible-spacer__device fsb-flexible-spacer__device--md\" style=\"height:80px\"><\/div><div class=\"fsb-flexible-spacer__device fsb-flexible-spacer__device--sm\" style=\"height:80px\"><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"gb-container gb-container-e3118763 alignfull\">\n\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" 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